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.s. military objectives in iraq and afghanistan with the center for strategic international studies and we will talk about the debt ceiling debate and the 2012 campaign with the former chairman of the democratic national committee, tim kaine and fox news andtucker carlson. "washington♪ host: today is wednesday, july 13. we begin by talking about the continuing negotiations regarding the gatt talks happening on capitol hill -- devt talks happening on capitol hill. we will have coverage of that on c-span.org. the first 45 minutes, we want to talk about some of the items in the headlines this morning. "l.a. times," debt talks grow more desperate. senators at merger -- urgent three stage process. it would have a last choice option. for the first 45 minutes, republicans only. we want to get your thoughts on republican leadership handling the debt talks. the numbers are on the screen. if you are in the eastern and central time zone for the first. the second if you are in the mountain and pacific time zones. for the first 45 minutes, just republicans talking about the republican congressional
. >>> conditions in afghanistan once again turn deadly. but now the commander is under orders to plan a withdrawal. find out how soon some american troops could pull out of afghanistan. >>> and sue, what is going on? you should be poolside on a sunday? >> this is what i call living large, coming in to fox 5 on sunday. i'm glad to be here. but it's another really hot day. 99 degrees. at least july is about over. we'll set a lot of records this month. i'll let you know if there are any more in our future. fox 5 news will be right back.  >>> libian civilians were killed yesterday in a fateo air strike on state television facilities yesterday. nato carried out the attack in tripoli. it targeted three libian state television satellite transmitters. a nato official said the organization is aware of the reported deaths but cannot confirm them. libya officials say three station employees died and 15 others were hurt. some say it was international terrorism on a nonmilitary target. >>> the top u.s. commander in afghanistan is now on notice. he has two months to submit a detailed plan to bring american tro
the civil war in afghanistan. i do not understand why members of congress want to spend $10 billion a month in afghanistan when our people back home are struggling. i can assure you the american people do not understand it, either. in june, a poll was conducted by the pew research center where 56% of the american people polled said bring our troops home now. not later. mr. speaker, i brought back the picture of edy and stephanie. their father and lieutenant colonel palmer, died, and that continues to haunt me. and the way they died continues to haunt me. that's the reason i wanted to bring this picture down here again. they were given the task to train afghans to be policemen. the two were shot and murdered by one of the trainees. what really haunts me is the email sergeant baldwin sent to his wife the day before he was shot and killed. i quote the email, i don't trust them. i don't trust them. for anything. not for anything at all. why in the world do we continue to send our young men and women overseas to get theirselves blown up, shot, and murdered by people they are trying to train? the
military engagements in iraq, afghanistan, and now libya. i speak of the need also of a new smart security to keep america safe. today will be my 399th speech. i look forward to reaching number 400 next week, and i will continue this until my last day as a member of congress, which gives me approximately 18 months, 1 1/2 years, time to bring our troops safely home. during this week, the week that the house is debating the appropriations, i thought it would be fitting to focus on more spending, on the staggering costs that taxpayers are being asked to bear for our military occupation. $10 billion a month is a lot of money, and that's the price tag for the privilege of continuing to wage a 10-year war against afghanistan. $10 billion a month. the american people who are writing that check have a right to ask and to get answers to some very important questions. where is that money going and what exactly is it accomplishing? what are we getting for our $10 billion a month? are we more secure here at home? is the afghanistan central government introducing the rule of law? have we not already de
india's financial capital, and the strings go straight back to afghanistan and pakistan. that's coming up. [ male announcer ] at nissan, we test the altima's durability on a track that simulates the world's toughest roads. ♪ [ tires screeching ] ♪ if it can survive this drive... ♪ it can survive yours. the nissan altima. innovation that lasts. innovation for all. ♪ there's another way to minimize litter box odor: purina tidy cats. tidy cats premium line of litters now works harder to help neutralize odors in multiple-cat homes. and our improved formula also helps eliminate dust. so it's easier than ever to keep your house smelling just the way you want it. purina tidy cats. keep your home smelling like home. >>> well, flash point in india, tensions rising syria as well, 21 dead, 100 blood yesterday after a coordinated attack in mumbai. a mass set of confusion this hour to who's to blame. police looking into the indian mujahedeen. also a suspicion on militant grew ups that led a sewage in '08. today three blasts hit during the rush hour, just days after the seven-year anniversar
of afghanistan and iraq. >> the republicans we have on the show say they are open to the loophole cuts. are they? >> tom coburn is. he provides a lot of cover. >> i was wondering what mike was quoting. how many pages can you get read in the seventh inning stretch? >> it's in between innings. it's the entire game. >> the tough thing for president obama, he's going to say he will extend the deadline, if it looks like a deal is coming together. this, to me, is the difficult part. if all he had to deal with was the senate, i have no doubt in the next week you would have a deal that would work. the house is difficult. he's going to need to know from nancy pelosi and john boehner the votes are in place. today, not even close to that. >> you will lose 100, maybe 120 republicans right out. if you get most of the democratic caucus and boehner pulls in 100 republicans, it gets done. it's up to the democrats. i think boehner can get 100 republicans. can pelosi get 120 democrats? >> right. okay. we are going to get to bill karins on the heat in a minute. before we go, new developments in the hacking scandal
on the heels of the most absurd unfunded wars in iraq and afghanistan and unfunded trillion dollar medicare and bills and tax cuts for the wealt wealthy. i, myself, voted for all of this. back to my original point. >> welcome back to "morning joe". the medicare plan was a $7 trillion plan. most republicans have been watching. let's take a look now at the morning papers. the san francisco chronicle and a virtual fallout if congress fails to raise the contract. they took out $5.4 billion in loans, covering the bills in case money stops flowing in from washington. new york times under pressure from democratic colleagues, seven term representative, david wu said he would resign from congress following accusations of inappropriate sexual encounters last year. she was much, much younger. before the allegations, he was politically vulnerable. two others were going to challenge him. they have been talking about this going back to college, possible rape charges from his time in stanford. drivers in l.a. may regret paying ticket violations from traffic cameras. they admitted paying the fines is volun
it comes to discussing the merits of continuing our efforts in afghanistan, the republicans clamor to defend it despite our fiscal mess. i want to remind my republican friends the situation we are in now is not new. throughout history from rome to the ottoman empire to the soviet union the over extension of military and protracted struggles in foreign countries has crippled empires. some historians have credited ronald reagan for the soviet union's collapse but what really bankrupted the soviet union was its wars, just like us, they paid a crushing price both financially and morally in afghanistan. overextending geopolitically comes at a cost over time in any nation that thinks otherwise is setting itself up to repeat the mistakes of the past. as of today, the united states has spent more than 2 1/2 times the percentage of g.d.p. on afghanistan that the -- than the soviet union spent on its g.d.p. during its nine-year war in afghanistan. public polls are clear, americans know the cost of the war in afghanistan is unsustainable and want us to withdraw as soon as possible. when it co
50 national guard troops returned to cedar rapids, iowa, after spending a year in afghanistan. about 2800 men and women will return home to the area in the next few days. this is the largest deployment that the state has seen since world war ii. and those are your headlines. >> let's talk about what's going on. couple of days ago, we heard the president of the united states say don't call my bluff, eric cantor and i'll take my case directly to the american people. today, the president is going to take his case to the american people. he has a press conference this morning at 11:00 a.m. >> we'll see what he says again. there's no talks today, folks. they've been doing them every day this week. there was a rumor maybe they'd go to camp david this weekend but not sure if that's going to happen. no talks today. >> fascinating to see after an hour and 19 minutes yesterday that eric cantor did not say a word today, yesterday, and on thursday. now the president for the second time this week will have his press conference at which time he's going to do something. i think it's his third one
it happened. >>> a man regarded as one of the most powerful politicians in southern afghanistan was shot dead today in kandahar, ahmed karzai was kandahar's council chief and the half-brother of afghanistan president karzai. he was killed inside hi home today during a gathers of tribal eltders. witnesses say he was shot by a bodyguard, a man karzai trusted and close to them for years. the taliban has claimed responsibility saying the shooter worked for them. >>> leon panetta has strong words for the iraq government while expressing the delay keeping troops in the country through the end of the year deadline. the secretaries y of defense wa baghdad monday and he met with troops at camp victory there where he took several questions. one san diego asks if the iraq leaders were ready to take over. i want you to listen to panetta's response. >> there are people that are going to disagree, there are people that are going to have different views. that's got to play out. that's what's happening here. very frankly sometimes it can be frustrating. i'd like things to move faster here in terms of the dec
will spend about $150 billion a year on the wars in iraq and afghanistan. nobody believes or hopes that will happen. it has not been requested by the president. no one intends to spend that money. in fact, the president's own budget assumes that instead of the $1.7 trillion that would be over the next decade, that instead we will spend about $600 billion. that's what the president's budget says. that's what people assume. this means that senator reid's proposal to take credit for cutting an additional $1.1 trillion that's not going to be spent anyway is not going to be viewed as a credible proposal. why? because it's money that's not planning to be spent. it's a little like a family saying let's assume we're going to take a vacation we're never nefer going to take and it's going to cost $10,000, and them saying we saved $10,000 on our basketball. i wish it weren't so. i wish the $1.1 trillion was credible spending reductions we could rely on but "the washington post," "the wall street journal," many other observers have looked at this and said frankly it's not meaning a meaningful
to afghanistan since taking the post. david piper is in kabul with more. >> before leaving with iraq the new defense secretary headed to southern afghanistan to see for himself a situation there had speak on the troops. this is the area where most of the fighting has been taking place in recent years and where the majority of u.s. forces are. this is the first overseas trip being appointed to his new role and its key responsibility for pinetta. they have been upbeat about the prospected of defeating al-qaeda in this trip. he said if they can keep the military pressure and capture or kill less than 20 of the key leaders, they are operating in countries between here and afghanistan and north africa, they will have in effect strategically defeated them. it's after afghanistan prepares for the gradual drawdown of u.s. troops due to begin this summer. 10,000 are due to leave this year and another 23,000 in 2012. he has had a meeting in kabul with hamid karzai to discuss the drawdown and role of afghan forces when this happens they are about to take the lead in some areas, with nato forces handing
to be liked rather than respected. they have wound up being need that. >> the war in iraq and afghanistan, what would you do? >> help the iraqi security forces to govern that country. in afghanistan, we have to walk -- have to watch out for a precipitous withdrawal. it would create a new harbor for terrorism and they would lose their ability to stabilize the government. >> have you met world leaders? what has been your impression of them? >> i do not believe that is important. i look at the strategic interest of the united states and our allies and how we can mutually cooperate and mutually conflicts. >> finish this sentence. the state of the country today is what? >> an opportunity to be seized. big government and big banks have failed us. the crushing weight of the potential markets have yet to be fixed. that has helped to inhibit the ability of the american people to move forward. it is never a failure of the american people. that is not why we are having the difficulties we are having. it is the failure of governments to affect the larger institutions. for a period of time, you are ab
this morning. he didn't want to kill terrorists in afghanistan perhaps because he wanted to kill americans right here at home. awol soldier may have been inspired by al-qaida cleric copycat to the ft. hood massacre, they are checking into that following his arrest and confession that he wanted to, "get even" with the army allegedly plotting two attacks near the base. the suspected gunman in the original attack had direct contact with awlaki. yesterday, they announced they found jihadist literature in his hotel room. he made headlines in 2009 refusing to deploy to afghanistan. >> i don't want to get deployed because i believe i can't both deploy and be a muslim. >> abdo was facing court-martial on child pornography charges when he went awol from fort campbell, kentucky. they alerted police that he had been actly suspiciously. hasan bought weapons before his alleged shooting spree. they think he planned the attack alone and they're no longer in danger. >> we today would have been giving you a different briefing. >> the gun store clerk that tipped off police, former marine and police officer
, they're taking part in afghanistan, they also -- like their scandinavian neighbor denmark -- did have an uproar over the cartoons. but an uproar that i should mention that the norwegian government went out of it way to apologize for. so, basically, it's normally seen as a soft target because it's a peaceful country and considered that. one more thing, rick, you know, it's interesting that the actual nobel prize for peace is given out in oslo, but today it seems very far from that. rick? rick: good observation there. greg burke streaming live for us from europe. thanks very much. jenna: back stateside, it's hot outside. at least 17 states have temperatures above 100 degrees, and more than 20 people have died this this brutal heat wave. utility companies are struggling to keep the juice on in so many places. adam shapiro is in new york city's central park with more. hi, adam. >> reporter: hey, jenna, and it is so hot out here, i'm spritzing the atlantic ocean. i'm going to tell you not only how you can save money, but how you can make money, have the utility company pay you in a heat wa
petteri will be receiving the medal of honor because he had a gun to his head in afghanistan. he was asked to do something for his country, let's ask these people in washington to do something for their country. just get together and get something done. >> you know, there is huge news out of afghanistan this morning that we're going to get to as well as rupert murdoch and his media empire. what's going on with that. >> this is extending, by the way, to "the times" of london? >> yes, the big story. >> the other players, this is earth shattering. i thought the big thing -- i thought it was about one tabloid. whew. this is so serious. >>> ahead this morning, we're going to bring in the ranking member of the budget committee, congressman chris van hollen. and oil tycoon t. boone pickens will be here. eugene robinson. >> by the way, on that story, i mean, they're not tapping the phones of the british prime minister, but they're -- they're trying to get his records -- >> may be an institution that has rot on the the core. it is a big problem. >> medical records. >> bank accounts. >> after the br
afghanistan but they are over in the other places, somalia and arabian peninsula? >> that's right. actually this is a testament to bin laden's plan for the al qaeda network. he created a more diffuse network after the united states began to crack down on al qaeda in late 1990s. you saw rise of al qaeda in north africa and al shaback in east africa. al qaeda in iraq done great damage to u.s. forces. the taliban was once a government but relegated to affiliate movement of al qaeda. what you have a is number of organizations sort of franchises of al qaeda that continue to grow and thrive while we have focused in on the core as we called it. now i think after the death of bin laden in early may, i think we were able to get a lot of intelligence. we've gone after a lot of the other high-level officials within al qaeda and obviously this drone campaign been ongoing in pakistan and some cases yemen, we've taken out something like 1200 fighters from al qaeda including senior leaders. jon: right. >> this is all good news. but again the ideology of radical islam lives on and so do these affiliate gro
threat than that -- yemen is a greater threat than that on the afghanistan/pakistan border. >>> the committee chairman says more than 40 americans have been recruited by al qaeda- linked terror otherses. >>> otherses -- organizations. >>> house speaker john boehner is delaying a vote on his rescue plan. ktvu's alison burns is live in our washington, d.c. newsroom to explain this vote delay. alison. >> reporter: dave, that's right. speaker boehner is being forced to rewrite his plan because none partisan numbers will not produces the deficit savings that the speaker promised. president obama promised to veto that plan anyway, but this is another setback with just six days to go. we were in several congressional offices yesterday where phone and e-mail systems were overloaded with people weighing in. democrats are railing against republican plans to cut the deficit with no dax increases. >> they don't just want to make cuts. they want to destroy. they want to destroy food safety, clean air, clean water, the department of education. >> and while conservatives say the cuts in
hacked voice mails of the families of britain's soldiers killed in iraq and afghanistan. for celebrities that saw their cell phones illegally hacked and been exposed to people offal world, finally people were listening. actor hugh grant smoke out on the bbc. >> you didn't care who got hurt as long as you were able to sell your newspaper. >> reporter: that's paul mcmullin, for more than a decade, a reporter and editor at "the news of the world." >> would you stop at anything to get the story? you would do anything. >> even breaking the law? >> absolutely. >> reporter: we learned they made it an industry, allegedly bribing police for scoops and hacking as many as 4,000 people's phones. on friday, the arrests began starting with andy colson former editor of "the news of the world" and he would become spokesman for david cameron. he now conceive thad maybe politicians and police have been a little too cozy with the press baron. >> we've all been in this together. party leaders were so keen to win the support of newspapers we turned a blind eye to the neat to sort this issue. the people in po
and afghanistan, is inconsistent with his muslim beliefs. at first the military wasn't buying the argument, but ultimately the pentagon said he's right, he should be discharged from the military and he was just about to leave when authorities say they found several items of child pornography on his computer. so that stopped his discharge. he was almost out of the army, but when they found evidence of a crime, they kept him in the military so that they can prosecute him in the military justice system, and that's what put a hold on his discharge. he'd had a hearing. he went awol, wound up in texas. went to the gun store where he bought smokeless powder which is gunpowder basically, a component in bombs, and authorities say when they went to his motel room in ft. hood, texas, they found the makings of basically two time bombs, smokeless powder. they say he was in the process of taking shotgun shells apart to get the shot out. the little metal pellets, which apparently he was going to use as shrapnel in the two bombs that he would have built in pressure cookers. so, instead of being pipe bombs
. the reid plan says we won't be in iraq and afghanistan. that's $1 trillion. we'll have a commission. that will save us $$1 billion. those aren't real. >>> the problem you have is ideological purity. when you sit here and look at the congressional budget office, made it clear that if the bush tax cuts were not extended, all of them, deficit goes down. if you extend all of them, $3.3 trillion increase over ten years. that's fact will we won't sit here and debate a fact. it is a fact. and so on democratic side, it is crazy to sit here and say we have no issue with medicare, medicaid. no issue with social security. you have rising costs. at some point you cannot have people on the democratic side and the republican side say absolutely not. i'm not giving up anything. you have to be able to give up something. >> the republicans were willing, at least until recently. you heard john boehner, the speaker of the house saying he was willing for $800 billion in tax revenue. increases in taxes in effect. that's not ideological purity. >> right. could he sell that to his party? >> and at the end
now. a soldier's death in afghanistan is shrouded in mystery. few details are known, except he was part of the army's secret force. cnn's pentagon correspondent, barbara starr, though with the details. >> reporter: it was here in the mountains of eastern afghanistan that army master sergeant benjamin stevenson was killed on his tenth combat tour of duty. this is the only photo the army will release of the soldier from ft. bragg's army special operations command. the military will say little about his extraordinary record. but cnn has been told by military sources stevenson was a veteran of the army's deeply classified world of special operations forces, highly trained in counterterrorist assault missions, the army equivalent of the navy s.e.a.l.s who killed osama bin laden. on july 21st, stevenson and others helicoptered at night into the mountains. the target, a camp of foreign fighters. the americans quickly came under fire and returned fire, killing nearly 50 insurgents. but at dawn, two more waves of insurgent s attacked. the u.s. repeatedly brought in reinforcements. preci
, awful trouble in afghanistan today. 19 people are dead including a bbc reporter. an insurgent bomb -- set off some car bombs there. this happened in central afghanistan in the urzugan province near police headquarters. three suicide bombers blew up cars packed with explosives in three simultaneous attacks. they have expressed regret over the killing of the bbc reporter, though, saying he was not their target. >>> right now investors around the world are anxious over this looming debt deadline. wall street has primarily been up this morning, despite four straight days of some steep losses and it may be waiting to react to a vote that comes later today on capitol hill. investors overseas, however, they have already lost confidence. many of asia's major indices closed down today, some as much as 1.5% lower, which is a big deal over there. >>> house republicans are hoping they can prove the world wrong when speaker john boehner's debt limit plan goes to a vote later today. but the short-term plan, which would cut about $900 billion from the deficit, it has already hit several snags. an
in afghanistan that kailled the mayor of kandahar. >>> plus, why a vote on john [ male announcer ] are you watching cable? here's what you should be watching: your cable bill. because you could be paying way too much. stop spending more for second best. upgrade to verizon fios and get tv, internet and phone for our best price -- just $84.99 a month for a year -- only available online. go to verizon.com/greatprice to sign up, and save $360 in the first year. fios is a 100% fiber-optic network that delivers superior picture quality, more hd, plus america's fastest, most consistent, and most reliable internet. there's no annual contract required. why keep paying for cable? get fios tv, internet and phone for just $84.99 a month for a year -- our best price -- only available online. ordering online is easy. have questions? you can even chat live with a fios agent. so don't wait. visit verizon.com/great price. call the verizon center for customers with disabilities that's verizon.com/greatprice. at 800-974-6006 tty/v. fios. a network ahead. >>> u.s. counterterrorism officials say al qaeda is lo
afghanistan and iraq is just not credible. we don't know what the obstacles are going to be in afghanistan and possibly iraq. we also don't know what we might have to do in the middle east going forward. afghanistan is not settled, mr. president, and we have to have a certain level of stability on the ground in afghanistan or we will have wasted the billions that we have already spent and the lives of our military personnel in afghanistan because it will go back to the way it was before, a center for terrorism that will come to our country or can come to our country. it did once already and we have been over there to try to wipe out al qaeda and the taliban, which has been in league with al qaeda. we have been over there losing american lives and spending american taxpayer dollars to protect our coury from another 9/11. to say that we're going to cut $1 trillion in the future over the next ten years when we aren't placing the emphasis on what are the conditions on the ground is not sound policy and it's certainly not sound national security policy. so that's illusory. and then the other pa
together and serve together in afghanistan is actually a better situation than if one of you had stayed back because you would live difficult lives and separate lives? >> i didn't hear the question. >> so what i'm asking, sergeant -- >> i'm sorry, what was the question? >> no problem. i know there's a delay here. the fact that you guys get to work together and spend time together, it sounds like it's working out quite well compared to many of those who serve with you where one of them is in the united states. >> yes, it's great having him out here. i know most of us -- well, almost everybody has to leave their loved ones behind, but it's great to see him every day here and be able to talk to him as much as we do. >> sergeant and corporal, thank you very much for what you do there. thank you for your time today and sharing with us how you've made it work serving together there in afghanistan, which is so important to all of us here in the united states. thank you again for your time. >>> and yet another twitter milestone for justin bieber and his tweet of the day. bieber saying 10,000 tw
al-qaeda move money and fighters in to pakistan and afghanistan. here now, a spokesman for four u.s. ambassadors. thanks for being with us. we known about their support of terror groups throughout the years, hezbollah and others but what about al-qaeda is this is the first time we've had solid evidence? >> it's actually not the first time. the four individuals that were designated in 2009. don't forget that the 9/11 commission report called out this phenomenon, said that al-qaeda and iran are working together. i think thursday's announcement is good news. we should congratulate david cohenfor making this announcement and pushing through this decision. i'm sure it was very difficult. the state department under secretary clinton has not been so forth right. hopefully by designating the six individuals that we can move the diplomacy and force a lost these countries that are protecting terrorists by not enforcing banking laws. certainly the u.n. has asked them to enforce banking laws. >> gregg: i'm glad you brought up the united nations. when it comes to fighting terrorism is the unit
behind, the war in iraq, some said don't try to build a nation in afghanistan. stop spending all this money. when the democrats came in in 2009, they increased every department 10%. if it's 25% the feds are taking and the 12 to 15 the state and local are taking. that's why they are all cutting back. >> pat, pat, pat -- >> you will drive this economy deeper into recession if you put $1 trillion in taxes on it. >> pat, i don't disagree with cutting spending. i'm trying to tell you 70% of how we got into this problem was spending and 30% was cutting spending that we wouldn't afford. it happens to be 70% spending reductions. 30% tax increase. >> this is one place i agree with krugman. mike barnicle should be in this. jobs are the thing. we have to create jobs. how does hammering business with $1 trillion in tax increases when government is going down in size, they created the only jobs. john heilemann. >> just as point of fact -- was about letting part of the bush tax cuts expire after 2012. that's where the revenue is going to come. no tax increase in 2011 or 2012. it was raising ta
savings on the mandatory side and savings from winding down the war in iraq and afghanistan. these are savings that cbo scores of about a trillion dollars, that cbo scoring them at a trillion dollars. now we know some republicans will quibble over the savings but they have no leg to stand on. though war is the second-biggest policy driver of the deficit after the bush tax cuts. if conducting the war ads to the debt, it is undeniable winding down the war deliver savings. the administration tells us with the wind down their putting in place in the iraq and afghanistan, they can prosecute the war on about $630 billion over the next decade. cbo, however, assumes 1.67 trillion in war funding for 2021. by adopting the administration's lower number, we can save over a trillion. we know the republicans agree with this because they included the exact same savings in the wrong and budget that passed the house. i never criticized such accounting then and it's hard to see how they could do so now. last, senator reid's proposal allows a joint committee that has the potential to achieve e
-- the other factor is that we are now drawing down the cost of our military efforts in afghanistan and iraq. last year we spent a little over $150 billion. this year we'll spend a little over $100 billion. and the plan is to soon be down to at least $50 billion in two or three years. so over the ten-year period there'll be about eight years at nearly $50 billion or so spent on the war instead of $150 billion. that's part of the plan that we've been operating on for a long time. $150 billion for the war is not baseline expenditure of the united states. it was never projected to continue at that level, so hopefully we could bring it below $50 billion. maybe we went get to $50 billion. i don't know. but what is the reasonable estimate? i think the house republicans and the president said it would drop to $50 billion, and that would be the baseline out there for the rest of the time. that's $1 trillion. that's $1 trillion. so you take $1 trillion out of the $2.7 trillion, you're down to $1.7 trillion. and another thing that's scored in that, since that $1 trillion in war costs is scored the way
in afghanistan and iraq and not really cutting the deficit. we're boring 40 cents on the dollar for every dollar that we spend in washington. and we cannot keep doing this. one thing i like to see is the repeal of obamacare. that alone would save us $2.5 trillion in the next 10 years. as far as the reid plan, i like to see him get it through the senate. i did not think that it would pass. host: couple we go to an independent in michigan, here is what the "new york times calls " says this morning. go ahead. caller: i called my representative yesterday and asked him to work with the president to compromise and make sure that the debt ceiling is raised over into 2013. this is destroying our economy. host: where do you see compromise? caller: th reid plan has cuts and take this off the table until 2013. i think that that makes sense. host: so you do not agree with republicans on this. caller: i do not. there is trillions of dollars being cut. let's take this and we don't want to make this something that the rest of the world is going to use against us. our dollar is worth nothing in the last 10 year
believe i can't both deploy and be a muslim. >> reporter: naser abdo didn't want to fight in afghanistan but was more than willing at causing bloodshed at home saying he wanted to get even with the military and chose ft. hood because of the 2009 attack where major nadal hasan killed and wounded soldiers. his plan was to set off two bombs then shoot any survivors. police say the attack was imminent. >> we would probably be here today giving you a different briefing had he not been stopped. >> reporter: greg ebert is the one who stopped him, former marine and police officer who works at this gun store. he got suspicious when abdo arrived on a cab on tuesday then bought six pounds of gunpowder, three boxes of shotgun ammunition and a magazine for a semiautomatic pistol. he paid $250 in cash. >> if somebody comes in especially into a business like this and makes a purchase and doesn't know what he's buying, i'd be concerned about that. >> reporter: concerned enough to call police who the next day searched the soldier's room at this local tel. hotel room they not only found the ammunition he
overnight. a bomb blast in eastern afghanistan leaves three nato service members dead. at this hour, the victim's nationalities are being withheld. this comes on the heels of a weekend attack that left another nato soldier dead, killed by a man dressed in an afghan army uniform. it happened when david petraeus handed over control. it shows petraeus transferring power to lieutenant general john allen. in september, petraeus will become director of the c.i.a. and another bus tour crashing. this one leaving at least two people dead. it happened about 55 miles south of rochester, new york. the bus was on its way from washington, d.c. to niagara falls when the driver lost control, veered down a grassy embankment into the woods. 35 passengers are hurt. four of them are in critical condition. early reports indicate a tire blowout might have caused that crash. and the video is incredible and horrifying at the same time. a look at what happened, a stage collapse at a cheap trick concert and it was all caught on camera. it happened during a thunderstorm at the ottawa blues fest. thousands of
're at war for 10 years, in afghanistan and iraq at surge levels. we assume we're going to be fighting this war for 10 more years, with over 100,000 troops in afghanistan and oh, gosh, wait, we're going to withdraw our troops in 2014. $1 trillion in savings. i've got a better idea. let's pass a bill to cover the moon with yogurt that will cost $5 trillion today. and then let's pass a bill the next day to cancel that bill. we could save $5 trillion. wait, i've got a better idea. our debt is $14 trillion. let's come up with a new plan to spend $14 trillion, then rescind it the next day and let's save $14 trillion. this stuff is fiscal fantasy. you can't make this stuff up, mr. speaker. suggesting that we're going to be in a war at these levels for 10 more years when everybody knows we've already decided not to do that, that does not get us $1.3 trillion in spending cuts. only in washington can you add up math like that. we need real spending cuts. i yield myself an additional minute to say, this is getting serious, mr. speaker. very serious. we can't keep spending money we just don't hav
the wars in iraqnd and afghanistan, which the republicans are calling a budgetary gimmick and not real savings. the yet, the ryan budget, which almost a every house and senate republican voted for, counted the same cuts almost identically. so, they say it is real savings to thee ryan plan with state savings in the reid proposal.-- i am sorry, but you can't have it both ways. reid' further, senator reid's plan actually is all cuts. i don't necessarily like that. contains dollar for dollar spending cuts to match the debtt ceiling increase. mh as much as i don't like this aspect of it, it doesn't include any revenues. even though a "washington post" abc newsabc poll said that 72% f the american public believes we should have those makingma over. $250,000 pay more. 72%.lo what republicans haveng wanted l along and now we are giving it to wen them. and all of the cuts and plans up and supported by republicans in the past. so, we are presentingse a plan that is all cuts, no revenue. the pretense that they are using to reject it just doesn't pass the j smell test. and according to cbo, it sav
who lost his life when his offspring helicopter tragically went down in afghanistan. and now his family and friends have found a way to honor his life and sacrifice through an annual event that is now used to raise funds for a college scholarship awarded to students at eden prairie high school where randy graduated in 1985. in addition to this scholarship, his run seeks to raise awareness of the contributions of our men and women in uniform that they make every day to keep america free. the major may not live us but his memory lives on through his family and friends and his community and through the scholarships through the local high school students that share his values. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from ohio rise? mr. kucinich: mr. speaker, i ask permission to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from ohio is recognized for one minute. mr. kucinich: as congress struggles to come up with this deal over government debt, we all know that all we had
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